Tim Montgomerie versus Daniel Kawczynski

They say it's a foreign ministers are meeting in Brussels to discuss how the alliance can maintain peace and stability at a time of increasing tension with Moscow. On the agenda will be not shiny Russian involvement in Ukraine but also the buildup of missiles and troops along Europe's eastern border ahead of today's session NATO secretary general Jens Stoltenberg suggested if both sides to tone down their rhetoric it might take some of the heat out of the situation let's hear what he had to say.

Tim Montgomerie versus Daniel Kawczynski

Are the welcome and need toning down over the rhetoric because I think a word so matters and the. Less aggressive rhetoric and come be a first step towards also better dialogue. At the same time what's. Don't words matters about of course the deeds umap there's even more. So therefore that the important thing is what you see you look on actions we see from the Russian aside. Jens Stoltenberg and we're joined now by the conservative MP Daniel Kaczynski who sits on the foreign affairs committee welcome to the daily politics custom although Tim Montgomery there is evidently concern amongst the Baltic states understandably because of where they are geographically about the Russian threat. Is any talk of a new Cold War exaggeration.


I don't think so if you look at some of Russia's tactics that they're deploying in the region how they used. Undercut the troops to invade Easton you cry and how they are involved in. Stabilizing democracies around around the world their interference confirmed by intelligence agencies in America in the U. S. election involved in the wikileaks. And prophecy over Hillary Clinton's emails. On a whole range of fronts. Russia is reverting to the behavior that comes not true it's about admit Putin Vladimir Putin was trained as a KGB agents and I'm afraid you can't always teach an old dog new tricks he still behaving as he did in the past yes and how do you deal with a pout that behaves in that way there is no evidence to back up that Vladimir Putin is moving towards some sort of cool deal relationship with Europe for example what I think he instilled in both the clip that you played from UN Stoltenberg is extremely important.

I had met him we met at the foreign affairs select committee met with him at the European Parliament recently. And I asked him how are you going to a secretary general of NATO how you how are you going to lower tensions with Russia. And he talked to us about his experience when he was prime minister of Norway a NATO country which borders Russia he had in that position as prime minister of fat no way very pragmatic in a very effective policy Ove dealing with Russia on a bilateral basis and I very much hope that he will use that experience to try to lower tensions with Russia so he himself has said it's vitally important that despite the differences we have with them. We want to ease some of the tension that's building up is it more than just differences on a bilateral with Norway is one thing but actually dealings with Russia on a whole range of issues when it's on maneuvers abroad it's moving missiles closer to Europe's eastern border it's watching cyber attacks seeking to influence elections in the U. S. an inference.

Makes it more difficult what I wince this summer to the Polish Russian border and that is already becoming the most highly militarized part of Europe right if the **** for tat deployment of missiles continues at the pace it has been of that area of Europe will become akin to the north and south Korean border a no man's land and it's going to be it will just take a Spock to cause some sort of confrontation between these 2 sides yes be strong and tough with them yes spend more on defense. But we need to engage with them. Try to build up some sort of mutual trust and respect otherwise we are heading toward some sort of confrontation painting rushers the baking on all the time and talking about the Cold War went that escalate tensions would a different tone really in your mind change the balance of relations I think I'm done you officially I think represents Shrewsbury in parliament but he has more of a record I'm afraid for representing Riyadh in Saudi Arabia in Moscow in Russia has always been a spokesman an apologist for for these regimes and his recipe of appeasement that he would like us to Pacific has actually been the recipe that Barack Obama sausage with if you remember he withdrew the missile defense shield that America promise for the Czech Republic and Poland his sector of state Hillary Clinton and reset relations with Russia the whole message to Russia was exactly as Daniel has recommended we sort of accommodate ourselves to Putin's aggressiveness. Since then what Putin sold out was as a green light he saw weakness.

And he invaded Ukraine invaded Crimea he blanket bombs Aleppo and I'm afraid the kind of recipe. But Daniel always wants us to recommend to follow in the west to be kinder and more indulgent to dictatorships. Is exactly the sort of thing that inflames aggression and. It endangers peace rather than the reverse you're an apologist for dictator well this is this is what miss the likes of Mister mom command of those in the other neocons I'm I I was called the E. last weekend by a right wing think tank in America a Trojan horse for the Kremlin if if we did if members of parliament to tough Thailand to into this very popular narrative which is peddled by Mister Montgomery and others witches these regimes are bad they have to be ostracized they have to be kept away they are going to a cause problems if anybody dares challenge that very popular and fashionable concept as to whether or not it is in our country's national strategic interest completely ostracize these countries and not to have dialogue with them know one thing can challenge criminals generalizing that I'm usually on it somehow you shouldn't do we represent in the midst of your critique is his view that the federal.

His views are highly dangerous all they got it and we need to engage them in all your views holidays the sense is what he's your alternative solution to dealing with Russia is it containment. Well I think what we certainly have to be doing now is the alternative to not to the kind of militarization on the borders that Dino describes is allowing Russia to bring in that people in the green berets and hidden the century Russian troops to destabilize countries like Estonia if we do not make it absolutely clear to Russia that will be enormous consequences for them destabilizing other parts of the world what we will get from Putin is more of the kind of indiscriminate bombing of civilian populations that we've seen in Aleppo Aleppo wasn't the first time of course the Putin bomb civilian populations. Before he came to power as Russian president in Chechnya that is how he behaved he is a very nasty piece of work and when we have an apologist light down youthful him then we are and that we were inviting further aggression eyes you have dialed you do not have indulgent can I say that I will take any lectures from Mister Montgomery on this is. I'm the only British member of parliament to have been born in Poland. To have come from Poland I spent my childhood listening.

To my grandfather about the. Catastrophic destruction of Poland during the second World War war sold being razed to the ground. And that button left a huge indelible imprint on my mind and all I want to do he calls me an apologist or I'm interested in. Is making sure.

That those frontline states that we are lying to countries like Poland on not destroyed and devastated in another World War and what is as I've said to you what is happening on the Kaliningrad oblast with the Polish border is frightening and anybody who doesn't understand the concerns of that trajectory of conflict it is wrong and majesty lastly a lot of people actually if you talk to people on the ground whether it since Roseville anywhere else they expect politicians to go the extra mile to engage and to go do whatever they can get rid of Israel has yet 11 says that on occasions he that that has worked.

That's understandable when hot with a hatchet attempts at dialogue and they have been rejected in many people's minds by Vladimir Putin himself that he is only worried about his sphere of influence and that he feels under threat from the E. U. and that that is why he annexed Crimea that is why he got himself involved in managing cousin in eastern Ukraine there is no evidence to show that part of it which is interested in anything else then increasing his fear of influence hence getting involved in Syria while I'm on the basis of getting rid of Islamic state that is the absolutely pivotal question and we are currently on the foreign affairs select committee doing a report on Anglo Russian relations.

And may I just say to you and we've been doing this for the last year the report will be published etcetera but but what the evidence that he would let you respond to on the critical evidence is this all policy seems to amount to a confrontation and sanctions and the sanctions aren't working interestingly Russian trade with America China Brazil and India is at record levels so once we are imposing sanctions on Russia by the way British companies have lost ten billion pounds a year as a result of the sanctions our international competitors the Americans the Chinese the Brazilians are continuing to trade sanctions will only work if implemented by all the countries in the world not just by western Europe is a you going to be out of step with your views now when we look at president Donald Trump who of course highs and signale.

Italian PM to step down after Referendum Defeat

I Amrita Cheema astounding defeat the lot to NZ Italian prime minister had staked his future on the outcome of a referendum on constitutional reform he lost and is stepping down later today. Lindsey it campaign for changes he said would cost bureaucracy and make the country more competitive but his opponents disagreed me carefully MVP who voted against the reforms but first this report.

Italian PM to step down after referendum defeat

What is my own defeat I go headline that says it's too much here that I'm the one just over 40 percent of the vote a far heavier defeat and polls had predicted. And one for which he. Phone. But so far and that but with the latest on the next step now is money but we need to tomorrow I will hold the ministers meeting. I will thank my colleagues for their extraordinary support. And I will go to the presidential palace to inform the president of the Republic of my resignation casino limit the. After a fiery campaign turnout was high around 2 sets of eligible voters cast their ballots. When he had promised his reforms but stripped away bureaucracy and bring peace.

Payton said they would wreck the. Some balances. It's was a victory for those fed up with the established parties for many the decision was as much about pansy **** the proposed reforms. Boy boy not. I voted no we. I want the things. Stay as they are. And that that charlatan doesn't change the constitution that was so shocked owner. But I think that it is not the money to do this victory of the no vote is a signal that the people are tired of austerity and the neo liberal politics of princes government and those before him. I said and think that only comes.

These are the people who want to leave it to me now. Make that they clearly and his populist 5 star party let the no camp. They're now calling for immediate elections hoping to ride a wave of anti establishment Fateh into power. Joining me now from Bologna is any slight she's an Italian member at the European Parliament for the left being perceived a party. Until last year she was a member of prime minister Matteo Renzi is governing Democratic Party.



Welcome any to D. W. you and your party campaigned against events he's constitutive full plans what I. Well look because it was a very bad Reforma it would have shifted a lot of by where in the end up there ruling party and whatever you know way and deleted a lot off our competence is up there each one and it would have taken away the votes of their right to boats and for their present lives for us kind citizen and I think that's part of the reason why they voted against the coolest thing is that it is being described but at least this morning international media as a populist the boats while at it was not clearly because yes of course extreme right.

Well as on the side of the noble and Greenough spice their movement was supporting you know but also the net but also 60 percent of Italian people also the biggest trade union for example and also the association offer partisan and who read that there and that the county from a from the face is my and many years ago so it was not a populist the goal I think amendments that your holidays that there was broader support actually more than just the that the populace look but then she always argued that these reforms well about making it a bit more governable he said that's 50 changes to the Senate would make political deadlocks and less likely save money and make the country a more stable what do you feel about that. It was not true actually they used and constitutional architecture as a scapegoat set too high to be failures off the political system which are a different problem we are number 2 in Europa in in terms of how many laws we produced we don't need to speed up or to do more laws maybe we should need to move to do that there does so and actually was a add very bad debate in these months that could have been used to do to address the real issues off the county court obscenities and the rising inequalities instead they focus on changes of the because it do so which were not needed to make our institutional more if he said but in the truth to give more pi where to the ruling party that was a problem and fortunately even if you use that he he was the one to lead embedded populistic campaign by saying we need to reduce body peace and we need to reduce the cost of politics but fortunately people didn't buy it's an understood the risk to know what the quality of our democracy with any one of the things that many people are also saying that this was not a referendum on constitutional reform it was a referendum on Matilda and see what is your assessment.

Yeah that's what happened unfortunately because they managed to divide the county on that one thing on which we were really unite that our constitution at when he understood that the reform was very weak and he tried to personalize it to make it to frame it as a boat on him and his government trying to find what the constitution I legitimacy that he never had to be causing the E. was never voted at to be the prime minister as you know that was a huge mistake and I think that now is paying the consequences for that that choice not very irresponsible choice as well. Vita you parliamentary member any schline in Bologna central Italy thank you very much for that. Thank you.

Brexit constitutional crisis could be 'good for Scotland'

Not how you feeling that breaks it means brexit this week we've had David Davis saying Britain might continue to pay into the E. U. we had suggestions Britain might stay in the customs union and tomorrow the Supreme Court will consider case that Mike through another cat among the pigeons although Boris Johnson told Andrew Marr Elliot this morning there was no history of parliament frustrating the government over the European Union before we went on air I spoke to the S. and P. S. foreign affairs spokesperson and former first minister Alex Salmond.

Brexit constitutional crisis could be 'good for Scotland'

From a sunny but cold Aberdeenshire. Well let's start with the Supreme Court case from tomorrow onwards out examined them. If the government loses on that 6. Widely expected in a may well lose. What happens. Well I suppose that depends on the extent to which the government loose I mean that the government could lose because the Supreme Court says you have to have a Commons motion the Supreme Court should they could indicate the house to be legislation in the Commons a Supreme Court of cruise. Could indicate the alleged with of consent motion at was required in the Scottish parliament the very persuasive arguments off then the law to advocate that we've seen as so there's a whole range of ways that that the government could lose in each of these I I'd say a particular difficulties to the the government's possession of the odd looking like a a government which is being increasingly boxed in by a number of factors in one of these is the Supreme Court.

If there is a legislative consent motion the Scottish parliament and should. As this goes government had suggested the SMP voted diving. Some people are saying that because a constitutional crisis to do you agree with that. Well let's put it this way if it was that the Supreme Court decided that those to be alleged consent motion in the Scottish parliament. Then I I think that we could assume that Filippov and would be tough I rode back to Edinburgh and adopt an altogether different tone than the one he adopted this week it would put the Scottish parliament and then put the clinical study in an extremely powerful position.

Yes but I I'm just curious is on you take in this because some people say should the Scottish parliament vote. Against the ledges of consent motion. It would be a constitutional crisis up all those a safe but it doesn't matter it's only advisory the government London could just. Ignoring I'm I'm just curious as to what you think the implications would be of the hopping. Well it would certainly be a constitutional crisis that would have to be resolved it is true that the house of Commons could try to invoke an overt right close but of course you could remember that at NASA Kalman's Zampese on more or less lightened up a in favor of blacks that because of the results of the referendum and but that's an altogether different thing if you stop saying we're going to overtime allege the for consent motion or for that matter how about a guillotine then there and because use the legislation so you know the votes change given the question that's been asked and secondly it would result in a a constitutional way crisis tonight crisis might get extremely good thing for Scotland because of it put us in an extremely powerful position and towns of fat securing the interests of Scotland in the negotiations. But why I mean what we say constitutional crisis on on what puzzles me is what what that what that means and if the government just says well.



We hear what you're saying but sorry there's been a referendum votes it to leave the you and we're going to go ahead with that and. What what what what does that how does that crisis manifested itself. Well it would manifest itself and that the government would have to overrule its own legislation and it's the the basis of that the Scotland doctor and issues which affect devolve competencies in this sadly does the house to be alleged of consent motion of the government sweeps out wins as well were not what we're not gonna invoke on will get out of asset via a motion in the house of Commons then that makes the have to copy that motion against the clearly expressed will of the of the Scottish parliament so that you get 2 parliaments in direct opposition to each other and sometimes in politics so many come to take on as so many at forces at one time I'm in the come in that the government's lined up against the the rest of your up against the the Supreme Court and I I against the elements within the Conservative Party the business community as a questionable that want to add to that the the Scottish people I'm lots of members of the house of Commons.

Boris Johnson a phone sex or he's just been on undermines program and what when he was asked about the Supreme Court business he said there's no history in any U. negotiation or E. U. treaty of the house of Commons doing anything to factor the discretion of the government. Is that a statement you would sympathize with agree with. Well it sounds just plain wrong women bonus Johnson was not I wonder during last that come in for my sentence I was in there and the 19 nineties. So was David Davis since then he was the government chief whip forcing through the that the Maastricht treaty few hundreds of votes in the house of Commons some of which of course the the government lost. And I think but a structure should better brush up is history books as well as his eye is up to for all of diplomacy and of course this brings us to a very important point. Because if this motto ends up as legislation in the house of Commons. That is not just subject regardless of how shot debilis. It's not just subject to to one amendment as Jeremy Corbyn was suggesting this weekend and it could be subject to the 10 amendments are 50 amendments or 100 amendments.

Because of at least 100 mottos and probably a lot more but shop I brought up in the in the whole question of the L. off the optical 50 exit from the European Union basically you think Boris Johnsons just wrong and what. Well I I think. But it's just the has a. As a hobbit so for for. Venable in that to to deny you seem stuff committee into another one that costs that the pill bonds of depression because I needed the papers aside a conspiracy against the monthly at the present moment most about conspiracy emanate from the concept the pop instantly.

You have been upon the exploring possibilities for Scotland to begin. The end to a nafta even if it's still in the United Kingdom the United Kingdom isn't an after. I'm on the face of it this Scottish government diplomatic initiative is. Is not really getting anywhere did. Did you get anywhere when you had talks about this. Well I isa so you make a point to feel Heslop last week god not a man of course Sir subsequently Nicholas dungeon messiah I called it rock star status in there and the Republic of Ireland where fast members of every political party expressing a great support forum for Scotland's a first thought was ambition so it does seem that the diplomatic initiative led by the. The Scottish government it is getting some fruit but if you want my general feeling on us and I don't think that. Special status for Scotland and towns of being closer to Europe if through the European economic area on a variety of other things is going to blow much opposition anywhere in Europe indeed up the country I think it's gonna be greeted with. His grief immigration through Seattle at the question we've got to do is to. The full stop position online the government that's going to be the trick is how do you get the political leverage.

To make that popped of the UK negotiating position if it becomes part of UK negotiating position at than that the rest of thing the continent is going to be plain sailing. Yes and as you know only too well. Being a coded rock star status doesn't necessarily mean you get what you want in the end of the day. Well yeah but I was a bit more not was not a man that ever a political party in the Republic of Ireland expressed support for lack. And the aims and ambitions of phat nickel stops in for our European inclination for a sensitivity to the issue of fire of non violence was a bit more than they are a bit more to it than selfless wasn't on it was a that was a lot of fun your us out I I see a big if. If you don't say right bought on the other side of that aids for example on nafta the trade minister of Norway. Has said Luke Scotland couldn't join not add F. to if the UK didn't join it is it's not a country with of the Spanish government saying that we don't want any set.

Scotland we would veto that we've had the first missile whales saying that. So being being being affected by the by the applies the Irish parliament is is is may well be fantastic it's not government saying loot Scotland the Scottish government's gonna point here and we will buy them it's not locked. A I think you just said I was right so we got that not less via a foster many into it was I think happens I'm using I'm saying I'm saying. Well I'll I'll let you off the state but sadly bit make sure that's on the lack of full but I sense a happens on seals of offense than to the Norwegian European minister at Tomorrowland the I can say I've seen the foreign ministers of European ministers of many countries night and tells of what's on that on the record.

A big dive a hook a giver host stopped the European negotiators on the back of the saying that is Scott say European citizens shouldn't be jeopardized by a by line the government the spirits faces a sport from there the green group across Europe from the old the group from the last group from individual members of the socialist some conservative groups that is a so. I'm sure well of enthusiasm for Scotland's European ambitions. Because clearly other Europeans are quite favorable to the idea that the people of Scotland want to maintain a close an important...

Four point Brexit blueprint revealed

It was those one story which. Unfortunately into was not right I'm glad that it's being it's been corrected it and people can understand what we're trying to to do and you know got great respect Sir discarding use oil magnificent job is not storied did not quite reflect my views and that of those all that you can have immigration but it's got to be controlled and you also got to take back control of the of money I go to take back control of our democracy about rules and you gotta be in a position to do free trade deals and that is what the promise what so cheap.

Four point Brexit blueprint revealed

I just tell male breaks it I mean all you in favor again it's been enough flowed around today the tech David Davis the brexit minister yourself up all in favor of some kind of continuing pavement pavements ahead to the European Union oft up brexit for some kind of access is not something you could live with. Well what does it what David has said is that that's the kind of thing that could be considered but we are not getting as United into a running commentary on on negotiations I got given you pretty fat 4..



Analysis of what we need to achieve control the borders control of money control of moles the abilities do free trade deals that's but within those are ideas that is very simple ideas is a wealth of information about the kind of deal that we want and I've no doubt that we can achieve it it will be good. Not just for the UK will be good for Europe and the whole of Europe as well.

33 victims in California fire

The remains of 33 victims have now been recovered from the burned wreckage of a California warehouse which qualifies during an all night posse emergency teams in the city of Oakland have been picking their way through the remains of the building which is been partially destroyed by the flames.

33 victims in California fire

Police say as the crews get further into the warehouse they are expecting to final victims skies US correspondent Greg Milam reports now from Oakland in California. There is now a slow and painful process going on inside the building known as the ghost ship. Picking through what was left. After a far we now know has caused a terrible loss of life this tragedy has hit very close to home for for our agency one of our deputies that we work with. Lost. So. Still dealing with that. As we can. A deal with. The other victims. Affected. How's this for a. You know where where. We were really prepare to talk about that right now but but we're dealing with that and and our our family are. It's hurting from that. Intensity of Friday night's 5 calls the roof of the building to collapse.

The upper floor folding in on the low one without a permit for a party in cloth and chaotic inside there was little chance of escape started yelling. Everyone I know is that it all happened really quickly firemen went really. We. The warehouse is being the subject of numerous safety complaints in recent years an investigation was started just last month there was an inspection of the property and we were able to confirm blight at the property and we're still investigating down. As a. I'm committed concert.



Humidity is now in mourning many here knows someone who was inside that building now among the dead or unaccounted for. This tragedy women while young people. You know. Going out to have a good time and. Wrong place at the wrong time you know. Please. You can even it's mind blowing. It's heartbreaking.

Police confirmed they woulda international victims but it will be days before we know the final toll from the horror inside the ghost ship. Greg Milam Sky News Oakland in California.

Should portions be Standardised?

Fish and chips what's not to love I sigh and you go you go have a chipping a poker chips on Yahoo harmless. Big school does not a big problem but I am hunter everyday you go and the U. as big a portion she gets all I would think but not everyone is agreeing always about that's quite right yeah I thought as a new report out that saying that they should be standardized portion sizes so that we can help to.

Should portions be Standardised?

Will there be city crisis in this country well let's talk to nutritionist Amanda Ursell about or if they say the whole point is we don't know how many calories are in abortion itches they give us a wax case scenario for medium in bullshit and efficient shit well what happens is that with the fall of a done just this week and what they found towards the agriculture horticulture development board what they found I mean the figures don't forget me because when I write quite alright they went that they they go to the variation the size of a medium sized portions he's going to fish and chips at high tide meeting Clinton chips and you could get anything from 230 calories for the college up to 1400 is affected because but yet called said that's a huge difference just in the call to boot just going for a medium copies and the chips with a 240 calories to 2147 it depending on which fish and chip shop you intensity meeting Clinton chips please wooden massive variation of if you'll really bothered about how many calories you anything.

You don't really go for fish and chips more uncommercial news what why not be able to go and have something not that I know what you're getting I think that's the point of that you know we should be saying don't ever have fish and chips because that really is not a state but that but that that there is it that the problem of this is it's not practicable. Is it I mean we've had loads it with a chick peas tracing along today Marino fishbar yeah strikes molding to you saying and we can't do it because we call our own face if you want to standardize portion Cuba by pre cut face. Take your point that there is actually an industry guideline for fish and chip shops and markets 70 grounds to cold which is 420 calories and 284 grams of chips which 600 cases that is not just actually in industry guideline that I know you've flipped point of view is difficult but even if people want to get to roughly the same size that would cut that huge difference that we were talking about initially down so I didn't anyone wants to news of making a little with it you have to step in at that particular size portion but that isn't a beast a crisis in this country we do have initiatives so if we can start to do. Just to make small changes across the whole food industry is what you'll sky fight continued very small changes that the big outcomes in it in in that difficult to 96.



I think it would put chocolate manufacturers now he got started knit sizes of chalk deposit you know more than 250 calories proportion this issue to heart before they started doing that but they've done it and consumers of accepted it so I think that's a point which you can say okay this wouldn't moving in the right direction to get found the dice portions is not as soft as it sounds mission and you don't think the fish and chips is a has a great British institution it's a trait is not something that people do every single day so if people are going to go out there not going to be worrying about counting calories just like a Christmas dinner you don't want to know how many calories are in that it's that it's a treat for lots of people know why some people do have it more accurate but also it sets a standard safety somebody might be having fishing ships that would sweep the might be having fish and chips that work with Friday which is a big tradition in the what county what restaurant so if you've got you know had the sort of the size you get subdivision chip shot then you'll be expecting that when you go into your wet continue and about my happen knock on effects will ease up a home if you were doing fish and chips a homesick I think Mississippi a bigger picture here than just saying you've got to have this site because it's what you're going to be to efficiently because it's an overall picture which could set things about unfair just to be stigma not the state rising to because we think the fish and chips because.

I fax you a confession chip shop believe or not when I was in that sounds and I'll admit what you say is a treat it's not there but the regulars coming in almost every evening and it's not the fish that's the bad part I date thing is the other things that they serve the box sausages by accident mas bars the Padres eccentric and they would add that with the fish and chips and that's what makes a portion because that's what makes it was in my opinion because facies protein at the end of the day that's what about coming of satin finish that's new yeah but if it's but I I think I think you have to look at this in the prospective of the child abuse to patent shouldn't mattress published in August this year and we've had a reformulation products come from that. And it talks about portion sizes and and the idea that the industry should just be looking at everything radius not just.

That is not what you suspicion chips are absolutely right at people just on the back of taking responsibility hands it to help change the set point and and our expectations because we gradually crept up in portion size now with saying is let's try gradually go down again to at least be say 20 years ago while Twitter doesn't agree today flooring. I'm just not as the obsession with calorie counting isn't helpful food company chosen by calories 11 romance it but I think that's right that what we say to change the portraits I see you don't have to worry about because there's a lot of Amanda good still tinkling family much indignant middle of going through.

Green Party co-leader Jonathan Bartley

LibDems a very keen to point out the wuyda messages from the results yet but as we know violation results don't necessarily translate into white up political results and. Contest here was a particular one the conservatives themselves did not put up a candidate neither did the greens and I'm joined now by Jonathan bought leave from the Green Party now you.

Green Party co-leader Jonathan Bartley

Supported the lib dem candidates issue was MP issue now is Sarah Olney about why did you decide to do that. Well actually what we said was people should vote for the positive kind of that hope who they felt that was I think we're reaching a time where we needed to make a very clear statement against the regressive alliance of conservatives and you kept and that's in a win against their aggressive alliance was also win nothing for new politics of hope a new way of doing politics were saying that parties can put aside that tribalism and under all broken first possibly system wagon night ends up often as it was in this election being the choice between 2 candidates people want I imagine to to express how they feel and the channel that feelings at this time I threw a by election and I think it's a very interesting mod wasn't for the future if we can get parties working together and saying you know we have things that are in common we have things that we can stand together on and we can work together to make those things happen using as a model for the future so your press we should be looking for some sort of pact between the greens in the lib dems and maybe a few others.

But I think that's an interesting point to raise that we would have to be done locally parties as happened here in Richmond would have to agree that that's what they want to do that have to be agreement at the higher levels between party leaders to bring about you know what they want bring about and that would be I think election reform it is about not changing the system because we changed people's lives we deal with your check I need to change the system up. This collection result though is not gonna change people's lives necessarily is not even necessarily going to change the course of the bricks it process did you have to accept that this is a particular result in a particular constituency which has a very true European electorate on that that is not necessarily representative of the whole of the country.



Because it's representative of what's going on here the local level violations often now but is also clearly indicative for about what's happening right across the country I think we had a very very loud cry in the referendum everyone agrees about taking back control of feeling that people weren't being heard their voices weren't being listened to and here in this constituency a very very clear signal has been sent to government other people having to listen to that and I walk breaks it looks like hasn't been made clear people feel they weren't given all the facts during the referendum process. And when parties can find that common ground that common agreement of course we should work together why would we know that is real life meant few people think that the whole world is is divided up neatly into 2 or 3 different options people believe that you can work together you can have a post tribal politics which really works for me won't.

Body thank you very much indeed for joining us Sunday yes the LibDems 17 you do have a a spring in their step but clearly what it has done is given the a bit of recognition a chance to put that case across on the media I'm not in it self will be quite up valuable for Tim fireman his party as they try to drool wide to conclusions from this but it is warm by election in one constituency we got another one next week that does it for now for Richmond's. Okay Carol thank you very much Carl Walker that talking about Sara Lee's victory in Richmond park.

Sarah Olney Interview in Richmond Park

And in terms of the tone of the whole brexit debate and I'm joined now by the newly elected MP Sarah Olney all the congratulations of what do you think you did manage to overturn. 23000 majority.

Sarah Olney Interview in Richmond Park

Well we started the campaign talking about our opposition to Heathrow expansion because that's when the by election was cool about it as we went round talking to voters we realize the bricks that was something that mattered a great deal more to them that's a lot of anxiety a lot of people very disappointed in the result so you know we started to get out a message about it we've always have a. St pro European has only come in very hard for remain and that went down really well with the voters now you said that you will actually vote against triggering article 50 to stall the bricks that negotiations.

That may be something that'll please some of your photos here but surely it is flying in the face of the views of the majority of people who voted to leave when I made that a central part of my campaign here in Richmond park and now that I've been returned to parliament it gives me a personal mandate from I have photos that I represent too to oppose article 50. But this constituency is not representative the whole country 70 percent have voted to remain pre know what the bricks that result is sure we've got to accept that. Well you know as I say you know I've got a very clear mandate from the constituents I represent and you know it say it's a Monday it they voted 70 percent remain anyway and now I've got a very clear Monday. This is an extraordinary victory but it's not going to make any difference really is it to the course of the brexit negation they go see Asians and to the government's determination to deliver on those with the will of the British people.



Well you know we just take the time to a massive 23.5000 majority here and it was very clearly a case of people voting against 2 reason Mase current approach to Brecht's it so I think that will give her polls as she can she. She will see now she's using both she's lost a seat that was previously a very safe seat for the Tories and I hope that that will cause it to change her mind about her current approach to Brecht's it. What about liberal democrats'you still love a pretty small full so Westminster you don't really gotta be able to do too much to change what is that all you well you know the momentum is with this people voting liberal democratic and not just in this election but in many council elections have been held since last year and I think in future elections we got some excellent candidates lined up I'm I think. I think we can we can win more seats.

But you're still a very small schools we've got you kept saying that that game to make gains. Approaching this whole brexit process from a completely different. Approach. Well I think to be honest I think to reason may has probably been too influenced by the UKIP and of the political spectrum and I think what this victory yesterday represents is. Is that you know she's to she needs to look out for the live with Democrats as well because we are providing now strong opposition only remain side of the political debates and that that's winning US boats and it's winning a seats there only thank you very much indeed for talking to ramble what's clear is that it wallows that whole issue of Europe on brexit which swung the did his decision here it was is that a pull the LibDems another new MP that's certainly Kohut that's it for now from Richmond. Carol thank you very much!

Aleppo onslaught

For the some of the job is following the developments in the letter from Gaziantep me at Turkey's border with Serbia. NBI Finnian government soldiers are continuing the pressure on east in the left over there have been skirmishes in some neighborhoods on the frontline but no major advances.

Aleppo onslaught

The humanitarian situation however has become worse operations are now happening in basements without amnesty Sierra. I imagine it being a eh having a child. And rushed to a and I'm sanitary basement and then being operated upon without an STC.

This other conditions today and east on the. Aid workers are appealing to all sides to protect fleeing civilians there across says it's provided food and blankets. A child is for the displaced that basic amenities. 400 pounds that in the intended to space in western Aleppo on now joins by tens of thousands a month at. It is our estimation.



And we need we need with a program full full full full for them Amin Europe panicked because we got 400000 from from from from Syria or of Europe at west a little has that. Alone.

Referendum Renzi 2016

Derek Halpenny any European head of U. global markets research at the bank of Tokyo Mitsubishi great to have you on the program I like to kick start the chat with Mister fantastic love the chart here which shows the Italian German 10 year spread and how it sort of evolved this goes back to 12/20/1400 if if you spike soon bear and then look at that starting September all the way up and then it's it's narrowed slightly since of course if you were to take a longer range at that would be not as big as a spy because it currently looks.

Referendum Renzi 2016

Italian elections I mean just as we thought we had recovered from the American political volatility what's Europe's top line read on what's going on here. Yeah well you know I I think that the most important point to make on this is it yes you know in terms of Italy specifically that there are important implications in terms which way the vote goes in terms of the banking sector perhaps in particular items the the immediate outlook in terms of politics but I think from a from a market's perspective uncertain and and from the perspective of the forecasts that I'm setting for for the major currencies this is. This is one piece of a potential jigsaw that's playing I was at the moment and it started this year of course with the bags of votes and then move to the United States with the election of trump and if. If we get a novos at the weekends and the freedom party kinds of winning the presidential vote in Austria it'll be another 2 examples of this.


Populism this wave of populism.is spreading throughout the world and is now clearly arrived in Europe I I and what I mean in terms of the broader consequence I think it fit the crucial thing for Europe next year is the French presidential elections. I'm 0 the idea of marina pad winning the last election and it would be catastrophic for Europe matapos clearly show that's not going to happen but if we get those examples of populism spreading right Sosa that feeds into the female will will if we pick up on that in a second how do you trade all of this I mean how do you how do you prepare for this kind of political volatility we were saying this is the spread this is this is the one of one of the many indicators missing a lot of downside pressure as well on the euro I mean how do you trade these kinds of waters but in terms of trading Gaza I probly steer clear of it because you know one of the reasons why we had the narrowing of the spread is this rumor this week about at the ECB would be very active and buying Italians asked if there was a no results on to me that makes perfect sense they're conducting quantitative easing and they want to keep the market stable if there is any blow as I'm sure the city would be and try and contain the move so that's probably not your tribes you know your own lower is perhaps did to try to take on but again post trump we've already had a pretty big move to the downside on euro dollar and so you know to me there's perhaps in the equity space you know I think there's there's opportunities there on I suppose taking a a broader approach.



Buying volatility is is probably the obvious one and I think that would certainly be an element of uncertainty and that would create up volatility CC this European populism spreading and continuing with that kind of momentum going forward because there was that one the other side of the argument which I made it clear that people going to realize you know what populism is not that great and way before the eurozone even starts breaking out that people are going to move back on that kind of sentiment. Well I'm not I'm not convinced about on on I think you know the roots of all of this of course is low economic growth and if you want to points to a country in Europe.

To look for an example of the house there is no better example than Italy and if you take real GDP peak growth levels before the great financial crisis. Real GDP initially is about 7.5 percent below the pre crisis peak in the United States for example its over 11 percent higher than in the UK it's over 8 percent higher so there's this real fundamental problem and it's only I I'm it's to do it dash it's to do with the fact that the have to run these very large budget surpluses druggy this week mentions that that the large budget surpluses being a positive for us in the in terms of that reducing sovereign risk I would argue it's actually one of the reasons why Isley has such significant problems on the growth side is because the have to run those budget surpluses to keep death stable and that's ultimately one of the big problems that is in the house. Derek will continue this conversation that just a few breaking lines here hitting the Bloomberg.

How Technology is Transforming Banking?

Like it's doing to the rest of the world digital technology is in the process of transforming banks. And in the forefront of that transformation of people like Cathy percent she is bank of America Merrill Lynch chief operations and technology officer Cathy is in New York today to celebrate her number one ranking among its. Usually testers top tech 50 and it's hardly any wonder of bank of America's 209000 employees 100000 I repeat that 100000 employees report up to Kathy.

How Technology is Transforming Banking?

Kathy welcome liberty great to have you here David thanks for having me so I guess most obvious which is one of those 0 people doing and the prime one hand wouldn't give you those people begin once I'm done with what they doing everything from designing great technology to processing manual checks to make sure it making sure that coins in cash are an ATM machines not just in the United States but around while. Give me a rough sense how much of this if I can put in these terms as defense of it how much was often so. How much is incident we gotta comply with things we've got to have some systems to check on things as opposed to we're really changing the business. Well one of things I love about my space is that technology operations actually do both at the same time see there is no such thing really as defense of our offensive if for complying with the regulation we should be using that to produce great customer service. And if we are moving the business forward that should in turn reduce risk so I I see them as a totally interrelated listen let's be to see first business to consumer alright what exactly are your 0 people doing in your relations with the individual depositors and customers of black America will they really trying to do I think 3 things first of all they're trying to make this ubiquitous to customers.

Stories in a digital era want just want everything that they can get from us when they want to see and where they want us to number one try to be back with us. Number 2 we've got to be flawless in our execution. And they expect perfection today and they get perfection in so much of the payments world so delivering flawlessly is important plus the cost of poor quality in social media environment is just devastating. I'm in third they expect speed they expect incredible speed and we work every day to take latency out of every part of the system. You're in a very special position to see into the future at least look into the future try to see in the future. I would have branches 5 years well yeah I think we well I think we will have they may not they won't be maybe our primary service channel but we will have branches people still will use currency. People will still process manual tracks.

That is the challenge for banking and really for many industries that have a combination of retail and digital presence is to say how do we marry those together how do we ensure that I'm that there contemporary with the time so you'll see fewer people in our financial centers but physically they'll still exist and how do we put technology into them. So they are as ubiquitous as your mobile device and had we make the mobile device capable of being the branch in your hand one of things that technology is done in various industries. Is break down some of the walls it expands it makes it easier for him to move into your business. It also makes it easier if you move into other people's businesses.

So what you're competitive set how is that changing now it's not just Wells Fargo is not just JP Morgan you've got apple pay you've got how lending club you got all these other competitors how do you see that world well for one thing I think that competition and the threat of destruction is nothing but good for clients and customers it produces better capabilities at lower prices and it causes us to be better. And I think we sort of think about it 3 ways I are our competitors are now digital companies fin tech firms we can either buy from them which we do extensively and in many cases we help them grow or we can partner with them apple pays a good example we share actual client on economics. Or in places where we feel like it's absolutely core to our competitive advantage.

Will compete like. The way things are you have because of this technology is a lot of data. And big data is a favorite thing for people to talk about what are you doing with that big data what can you do that big data. Well I we can do a lot and there's no question that the future of the firm depends on us doing more. So today we do simple things like truck like Amazon try to anticipate what you might need next time try to make sure that the offering that we have is right in front of you when you want it. I had to make sure that we for large corporations that we can and massive data and research in a way that gives our corporate clients a competitive advantage but that's just scratching the surface were trying to be better at that but but the uses of the future will go way beyond that discs man the top line or does it save costs. It should be better if it should produce great capabilities for customers should produce revenue opportunities which our very important in a business at like ours it is Stanley margins to begin with.



But that thin margin and heavy capital that we all carry that by regulation has to be patient the cost side of things and the cost takeout opportunity that comes from technology and productivity on better faster cheaper is the way that I think about it on that that costs take out capability actually helps us bring tough to get revenue to the bottom line to create a shareholder proposition that actually works gives an example or 2 before you could be creating new business increasing the top one is that taking market share from some of your traditional rivals a banking is it creating new businesses words that money come from well I give an example and I wealth management space we've worked very hard on them on them mobility of our wealth management offerings said that a financial adviser can communicate with the client not just added to ask. But anyway that client wants to be communicated with their for at the moment the client is making a decision I. E. producing revenue for the firm potentially we have financial advisors with deep information and the ability to give excellent advice right face to face or electronically face to face with customers at the moment of decision and that creates revenue. Is it finally we can't talk about technology and banks that are what cyber security. A very big issue I know on your plate.

Brian Warner has been on this program talking about that but give us a sense of the state of the play right now even just this morning's report that perhaps Iran attacked Saudi Arabia's governmental systems and their computers what do you do a bank of America to try to defend against those sorts of attacks. Well first about the attack tax across all industry are increasing at exponential rates and so it isn't as simple as a defensive posture we have to take an aggressive offensive posture and and forward looking posture as well so it it's a very strange space because you're only judged up to the second.

That you're in there's even less than the next 10 seconds something could happen so very difficult space manage so we say 2 things first of all we're not going to constrain our company by resources or by great talent and this is a place cyber where resources and talent and especially talent really matter. So we work to have a world class team. And they care a lot about defending the firm. And we insure that every element of how we design our business actually reduces cyber risk rather than increases it you know the counter intuitive saying is that electronic banking it's much easier to defend than the old manual way of doing business as if. Get the sense thank you so much for being here today that's Captiva centuries BankAmerica chief operations and technology officer.

Nicola Sturgeon speech to Ireland

Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon has warned of real dangers if you cake then the guard they have to try to find out how Gerry Adams came to identify these 4 people as murder suspects. Paul Reynolds 14 use called headquarters Dublin.

Nicola Sturgeon speech to Ireland

Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon has warned of real dangers that the UK government doesn't decide on a clear strategy for brexit. The first minister was speaking in Dublin on the second day of a visit to our. It was an early start for the Scottish first minister. Sturgeon made a breakfast to dress up the headquarters of the employers group buy back. And I advocate for a solved brags it while in Arlen she's exploring other options like a Celtic corridor for trade and made what she believes is no clear picture of what breaks it will look like the complexity or breaks it is such that.

The UK government is struggling I think to decide what the tradeoffs might be on on port we should see. To achieve but it's really important that before we go too much further. That that is a clear plan in place because this new dangers for the U. key if this uncertainty and vacuum arrange what it's trying to achieve. 10 years but she was clear that's a hard brags it could well be a catalyst for another independence referendum in Scotland's.



You have come to Ireland that could to the smaller than Scotland and that you know if I may say so doesn't have many of the natural resources that Scotland has but a country that is probably independent island you know successfully pulling its course and that I ask myself if if Ireland can be surprisingly independent Wyeth couldn't Scotland. The final stop on her 2 day visit was to shout at Aaron thank you so much for the order for the. And. Sturgeon was warmly received as the first serving foreign head of governments to address the upper house. Shower until button or TV news Dublin.